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Re: Emphatic Uchunata



--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Mills" <romilly@e...> 
wrote:
> >    Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:30:24 -0000
> >    From: "habarakhe4" <theophilus88@h...>
> > Subject: Re: >
> > --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, "Isaac Penzev" <isaacp@u...> 
wrote:
> > > Christian Thalmann eskriviw:
> > > > --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, "habarakhe4"
> > > <theophilus88@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > Inspired by Moroccan Colloquial Arabic, I am 
contemplating
> > > adding
> > > > > > emphatics to the evolution of Uchunata.
> > > >
> > > > That would be unfortunate (pun not intended).  Currently,
> > > > Fortunatian is intriguingly exotic, yet pronounceable and
> > > > aesthetically tolerable to me.  It would forfeit those two
> > > > latter properties if it picked up emphatics, which are far
> > > > beyond my articulatory comprehension and curdle my blood
> > > > with their hateful ugliness.
> > >
> > > I merely second Christain's opinion.
> > >
> > > -- Yitzik
> >
> I'm not overly familiar with the Arabic/Semitic emphatics, but 
it's always
> possible that the sounds could be _adapted_ to something 
pronounceable.  If
> I'm not mistaken, Span. alcalde is from Arab. qa(d)i, where the 
(d) was
> emphatic.  Indonesian has this word too, as simple kadi.  
Indonesian also
> has _perlu_ 'to need', which I think has an emph. _d_ in the Arab. 
(usually
> cited as "fadlu" or some such) though I could be mistaken.

I've settled on separated populations for Uchunata [ut`u"nata] on 
the Islands and Aht.unata [aht.unata] on the mainland.

A further subgroup is the prenasalized Fortunatian:
Etruscan may have had prenasalized consonants.
In Early Fortunatian, this would produce words such as ngonh
[N_g8J] 'ingenius', to which those who could not pronounce 
prenasalized consonants would add y- [i\]-, producing the canonical 
[i\N_g8J]. The two Classical Fortunatian forms would be njonh
[n_d_Z8J] and ynjonh [i\n_d_Z8J].

Comments on how large and where this subgroup should be? I aim to 
please.

And remember that Facxa (Easter) is approaching.