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I found it in the 'Pater noster' in Vegliot. "Tuota nuester che te sante intel sil: sait santificuot el naun to. Vigna el raigno to. Sait fuot la vulontuot toa, coisa in sil, coisa in tiara. Duote costa dai el pun nuester cotidiun. E remetiaj le nuestre debete, coisa nojiltri remetiaime a i nuestre debetuar. E naun ne menur in tentatiaun, mui deliberiajne dal mal." Didn't you ever come across this? The first time I saw it was in Lockwood's "The Indo-European Languages". Dan ----------------------------------------------------- <Really? Where did you find noijiltri? My little book <on Vegliot has |noi|. Does your source tell where <*they* found noijiltri? I find it interesting how <widly dispersed these forms with ALTEREM are: Spanish, <Catalan, Occitan, dailectal French, Sicilian and now <as an alternate form in Vegliot. The only thing they <have in common is that they are all on the <Mediterranean (except for Cajun and Quebecois), so <maybe its a feature of "Southern" Romance as opposed <to "Northern" Romance? <Adam