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Re: Wenedyk "rz"



--- Benct Philip Jonsson skrzypszy:

> >What do the Slevanian infinitives look like, at present? Does it 
> >also swallow the /r/, like Romanian does?
> 
> Actually it does.  The result is a long final vowel
> -á, -jé, -é, -í -- if I'm going to retain length.

Yes, that looks nice.

> >IIRC, in the first drafts of
> >Slevanian, you had endings -rz.
> 
> In the present form of the GMP final -e does nòt
> narrow to /I/, and so no palatalization.

Is that also the case for nouns of the third declension?

> Instead I'm supposing an early loss of the -e,
> and consequently loss of the -r when syllable-
> final consonants are lost.  Maybe infinitives
> should be candidates for liquid metathesis?

You know, I have been thinking a bit about that lately. The problem 
is that AFAIK in Common Slavic vowel/liquid combinations never occur 
word-finally. If I would apply it in Wenedyk, you would get:

lauda:re > Å?udar
mone:re > moner > monrze
audi:re > udir > udzierz
carpere > karpr > karpar

Now, I'm quite sure that somewhere along the way forces would stand 
up to prevent the infinitive from acquiring so many different forms.

On the other hand, why not? If Russian, besides its normal forms on 
_at'_, _et'_, _it'_ and the incidental _ot'_, _ut'_ and _yt'_, can 
also have forms on _ti_ and _-Ä?'_, then why not Slevanian?

Jan