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Re: [romconlang] Re: Wenedyk "rz"



At 08:30 14.10.2003, Jan van Steenbergen wrote:
--- Benct Philip Jonsson skrzypszy:

> > > Could it be that the final /e/ disappeared from the infinitives
> > > before the palatalization?
> >
> >Yes, it's about the ...
...snip...
> >case of infinitives... ;))
>
> At least the exact same thing happened in both
> Slvanjec and in 'real' Rmc langs.

Except Italian, I think. Or could it be that the fine -e in Italian
infinitives was re-added later, because the Italians don't like final
consonants?

The opinion of scholars is divided in that respect,
but personally I'ld tend to see it as a retention

What do the Slevanian infinitives look like, at present? Does it also
swallow the /r/, like Romanian does?

Actually it does.  The result is a long final vowel
-á, -jé, -é, -í -- if I'm going to retain length.

IIRC, in the first drafts of
Slevanian, you had endings -rz.

In the present form of the GMP final -e does nòt
narrow to /I/, and so no palatalization.
Instead I'm supposing an early loss of the -e,
and consequently loss of the -r when syllable-
final consonants are lost.  Maybe infinitives
should be candidates for liquid metathesis?


/BP 8^)
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