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Jan a screffas:
<Well, let me add just this: AFAIK there are two conlangs around that
were <based
<on Dalmatian: "Neo-Dalmatian" and "Dalmatesku". Both were created by
Frank
<George Valoczy. The former was his initial attempt at a real
<reconstruction,
<but IIRC Ferko abandoned that idea because of a lack of material.
<Dalmatesku,
<the language of Dalmatia in Ill Bethisad, is more like a real conlang.
Hi Jan,
Would you happen to know how to get in touch with Frank George Valoczy?
I tried the e-mail he provided on his web-site, but it bounced back
unfortunately. I'd like to exchange notes.
Some of his extrapolations are quite good, others just go against the
evidence that is actually there, such as s-plurals. I don't see any
evidence of those.
"Dalmatesku" is of course very much like Romanian, wheraas I have the
impression that natlang Dalmatian was between eastern Romance dialects
(definately some connection to the Balkans), but also in touch with
Friulian, and heavily influenced by Venetan.
So these dialects would be my base for reconstruction. Since there
really is so little of Vegliot left (which is deplorable anyway) this
"reconstruction" will have a very conlangy quality to it. But I will try
to stick to the evidenec and incorporate as much of the original Vegliot
as is there.
Back in school I knew a girl whose parents were originally from Krk
(which used to be Veglia in Italian and Vegliot). She told me her
grandfather, though he couldn't speak the language, knew a couple of
songs and prayers in Vegliot. She called it "a language very much like
Italian". So there seems to be awareness of its existence in living
memory. If this really is the case and she wasn't exaggerating, it is
difficult to understand how Romance philolgists managed to overlook
these remnants. Or were they just a bit more laissez-faire than a
Jakobsen (Norn), Jenner (Cornish) or Nance (Cornish)?
Ever since my involvement in the Cornish language revival, I have been
interested in reconlanging rather than conlanging, though I'll always
have fun with that. But my methodology will probably reflect the
reconstructive approach I have, which means I'm probably a great deal
less "free" in my conlangs.
Aside from the above mentioned staement I've been tampering with a
Romance conlang with the working title of "Noricum". This involves a
group of Romance condialects spoken in various parts of what is eastern
Austria today. I've been messing around with a couple of sound changes,
but I haven' really arrived at something satisfactory as yet. To tell
the truth, I'm still stuck in the 8th century with two dialects already
and can't decide which way to turn.....perhaps a consonant shift similar
to Upper German, with a further phonological development of central
Bavarian? We'll see. I'll keep you posted.
I wass also thinking of morphophonemic alternations such as:
Lat <rogat>
Lat <rogamus>
Lat <rogatis>
Noricum <jE rOat>
<nUs @r'gaums>
<bus @r'gais(@s)>
or something similar....
On my first attemt Lat <caseum> came out as <hEZ>, but I'm not at all
sure this will stay. I think I'll run several developments and pick out
my favourits for the final version.
Dan