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Re: [romanceconlang] Question on Italic languages



 --- Adam Walker skrzypszy:

> And Carrajena is a con-P-Romancelang. What an
> aglutinated glop of a word!  Con-P-Romancelang.

:))

> > Apart from that, as far as I know Oscan and Umbrian,
> > they are undeniably sister languages of Latin. 
> > Fascinating languages, both. An interesting future 
> > conlang project could be the resurrection of one of 
> > these two as a contemporary language. 
> 
> And what a challenge it would be!  I don't think
> there's an overly large amount of vocab preserved from
> any of the other Italiclangs, is there?  What would
> you use to reconstruct unattested roots?  Could they
> be cobbled by looking at older forms of Latin and
> comparing them with Greek?

I don't really know, but there are some interesting websites dealing with the
other Italic languages, one of which is called "Viteliu".
I would probably start with analyzing them thoroughly. Oscan and Umbrian seem
to be very close to each other, so their vocabularies could eventually be used
complementarily. The next step would be to determine their relationship with
Latin, which would surely enable us to generate some new vocabulary. Let's say,
that if a word exists both in Latin and Greek (of course not in the form of
borrowings), then it should exist in Oscan/Umbrian too. Except for Greek,
Celtic might play a role too.

> Speaking of Greek, there's another pitty.  All the
> varieties of Greek that have died out without leaving
> daughter langs.  IIRC Tsakonian is the only non-Attic
> Greeklang currently spoken.  

Yes, indeed. BTW, the P vs. Q phenomenon manifests itself in Greek too, albeit
in the form of P vs. T ("tessares" vs. "pisyres", the latter is Doric IIRC).

> I wonder why, with all the multitudes of us constructiong 
> Romancelangs, I'm not aware of anyone doing Greeklangs.  

I have been wondering about that too, and I think I even asked about that on
Conlang. Nobody really seems to have an answer, except for the fact that Latin
is better known than Greek, and that the presence of so many Romance natlangs
makes the creation of new Romance conlang much more obvious than the absence of
any Greek natlangs other than Modern Greek.

> Is there anyone?

Well, there are two examples I can think of: Mesegoika, by Alexis Katsaros,
which is some sort of Greek-Spanish hybrid. And Ferko Valoczy has presumably
started a new Slavo-Greek language lately.

Jan

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"Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones

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