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--- John Cowan <jcowan@hidden.email> wrote: > The Greek says "Pater hêmôn ho en tois > ouranois: Hagiasthêtô to onoma sou". Father our this in the heavens. OK. Is it a voc a nom or either? I suspect the ho goes with en tois ouranois and refers back to pater. Silly me! Lockwood has the PN in a number of IE languages as a comparison. He gives páter, voc of patér. That would indicate a 2s in the Latin rather than a 3s. Padraic. ===== ay aci kes? ao o may mech? si ay 'ci kes, feri kes; si nay ne kes mech, feri que láes! .