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"goynto" vs. "myagoyndo"

In a message dated 2002-08-20 1:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sts@hidden.email writes:
ram> 
I don't understand the point your making here.  "Goynto" is simply a
shorter form of "myagoynde".  Section 2.9 discusses this.

Typo: "Goynto" is a shorter form of "myagoyndo", not "myagoynde".

?stefo> what's the difference, steven? can you give an example?

I understand that the two forms mean the same thing, and that they are interchangeable.  That's not my point.

My point is strictly between the shapes of the words and the corresponding notation used to describe them. 
"-nt-" is a CCM meaning P-s.  It's not a CCM meaning "mya--nd-", even though it is the equivalent of that. 
"-nd-" is a CCM meaning P/F-s. 
Adding the prefix "mya-" to it ["mya--nd-"] demotes the second argument and moves the 'F', resulting in P-s [-F].  It means the same as P-s, but the notation (i.e., the presence or absence of "[-F]") and actual shape of the words ("goynto" vs. "myagoyndo") are different.
Maybe it seems like I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but to me it seems that a perfect correspondence between word shape and notation is being muddied, simply because "it means the same".

btw: *myabitsa fungo myava gefuji.*
stefo,  What does this mean?  "Myava" is not a word, and it can't be the analog of "pyava" because, by its very nature, it's being used to express the unexpressable.  If "myava" (in this meaning) can take an argument, then it doesn't mean "myava".


kaxtebyo,
sts

stefo, If you pronounce your name the way I expect, "xte" is an excellent choice!
Steven/Stevo