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I am abit confused about the use of tu'a in th ex2 place of sisku when talking about an object. Fistly I don't see the logical necessity of the x2 place being a property. Secondly I don't understand how using tu'a makes it ok to use something that isn't a property as tu'a is simply used to extract a sumti from an abstraction; the point is though if you want to express that you are looking for something concrete, then there is no abstraction to extract it from! For example, if I wanted to say 'I look for the dog' my understanding is I need to say 'mi sisku tu'a le gerku'. This doesn;t make sense to me as it has a literal meaning of 'I seek the-bridi-implied-by the dog'. What is this implied bridi? It's not 'le ka gerku' as that would mean I am looking for the property of being a dog. What I am trying to express is that I am looking for a physical being that is a dog. Can anyone explain the reasoning behind all of this? Cheers Matt