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John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > (ii) Let (tu'o)lVi mean "Mr Xod-collective of", where a xod-collective is a > > kind of group that shares none of its properties with its constituents; > > So a small group of large objects and a large group of small objects are > xod-collectives, but not a s.g. of s.o. or a l.g. of l.o.? Of what > utility is such a notion? > > Or do you mean that it *essentially* (i.e. non-accidentally) shares none > of its properties? If so, how is it distinct from a mathematical set? I don't understand para 2, but you should explain what you mean, not let it pass, for if math sets do do xod-collectives, then that is an important conclusion & XXS is in need of revision. As for the first para, the example is not very well-chosen, because the sets and objects can be seen as large/small in different ways, by different standards, and one obvious wriggle out is to say that we are dealing with different predicates (is a large set, vs is a large object; has many members vs has much volume). However, let us ignore the wriggle, and my answer is that the ill-expressed intent of XXS is that {lVi cmalu cu broda} would entail that the referent of lVi cmalu is not small, while {lVi broda cu cmalu} would entail that the members of lVi broda are not small. But the intent is that you could have a small set of small things yet talk of them as a xod-collective, so long as the property attributed to the xod-collective is not one shared with its members. --And.