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Re: tu'o: we've already been there



--- In jboske@yahoogroups.com, Invent Yourself <xod@t...> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, seqram2 wrote:
> 
> > --- In jboske@yahoogroups.com, Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > An optional addition to XS (but not to be considered as a part of
> > > the basic proposal) is to use loi/lei for {lo tu'o}/{le tu'o},
i.e. for
> > > Substance, so xodium would be {loi marjrxodiumu} with no need to
> > > glork the inner tu'o.
> >
> > I was wondering why something like this wasn't worked-on before.
> > Since the major proposals so far focus mainly, some almost
> > exclusively, on lo and le, why bring the other gadri into the picture?
> > I for one actually figured that {loi} would be good for Kind, or
> > Mister, or whatever, leaving {lo} still to be (potentially)
> > extensional, but unspecified (what Nick said before was exactly what I
> > had been thinking.  When I say "I see a bird," I don't know which bird
> > I'm seeing, it's unspecified, but it isn't the Kind.  It's *a*
> > *particular* bird, whose identity I neither know nor care about.
> 
> 
> Yes. That's Mister.

*That*'s Mister?  I thought Mister was approximately Kind, or, the
"Unique" as it was once called.  The Doctor I'm looking for when "I
need a doctor!" is Mr. Doctor, but that's not the same as "A doctor on
TV said that Ido causes cancer."  The first is, I thought, the Kind,
and I thought that was Mister and intensional, while the second is
extensional though unspecific.

Unfortunately, I feel like a lot of this discussion is over my head,
which is disconcerting.

~mark