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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > la xod cusku di'e > > > Your XS ignores Collectives, treating them as identical to pluralities. > > In XS: > > le ci broda: "the three broda", the group, one entity. > > ro le ci broda: "Each of the three broda", each member of the group, > three entities. > > What do you understand by "plurality"? Dr. Rosta's XS gives: {ci lo re plise} = "three pairs of apples" Is it really referring to apple-collectives? I don't think that apples can form collectives. But how else would one discuss three pairs? This is the conflation of plurality and collective. I think we agree on our definitions, but mine are here: http://www.lojban.org/wiki/index.php/Towards%20a%20complete%20gadri%20picture -- The Pentagon group believed it had a visionary strategy that would transform Iraq into an ally of Israel, remove a potential threat to the Persian Gulf oil trade and encircle Iran with U.S. friends and allies...