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Jorge Llamb?as scripsit: > {ro lu'a ko'a e ko'e} is equivalent to {ro lu'a ko'a ku'a ko'e}, > each member of the intersection of ko'a and ko'e, and {ro lu'a > ko'a a ko'e} is equivalent to {ro lu'a ko'a jo'e ko'e}, each member > of the union of ko'a and ko'e. Entering a belated protest to this. Logical connection, except for tanru logical connection, *always* factors out to the bridi level. So "ro lu'a ko'a .e ko'e" means "[li'o] ro lu'a ko'a [li'o] .ije [li'o] ro lu'a ko'e". BTW, as a byproduct of "JCB speaks!" I now grasp that jo'u, the mystery JOI, is designed to create Collectives, and is the true equivalent of Loglan ze, which is Loglan's only non-logical connective. > {ro lu'a ko'a enai ko'e} is each member of ko'a that is not a > member of ko'e, etc. No. But this makes me realize that we have no easy way to do set complements, and probably need a LAhE for the purpose. > Is {lu'i ko'a} some set that has ko'a > as one of its members, or is it the set that has ko'a as its only > member, or something else? The latter. But if ko'a is Distributive, then we get a non-singleton set: if we have bound ko'a to le re cutci, then lu'i ko'a has cardinality 2. > If we take the complement to be the full list of the members, > we run into trouble with things like {lu'i ko'a enai ko'e}. > How is that different from {lu'i ko'a}? And what is > {lu'i ko'a a ko'e}? Viewing these properly as factored out to the bridi level eliminates the problem. As for the non-logical set connectives, they make nonsense if applied to non-sets. -- All Gaul is divided into three parts: the part John Cowan that cooks with lard and goose fat, the part www.ccil.org/~cowan that cooks with olive oil, and the part that www.reutershealth.com cooks with butter. -- David Chessler jcowan@hidden.email