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la pier cusku di'e > That has to be {remei lo'i cutci}, as x2 of PAmei is a set. But x2 of remei is supposed to be a set with 2 members. lo'i cutci has many more than that. That's why I prefer a different place structure for mei, one that allows us to talk about "an n-some of brodas". > Or you could say > {remei fi lo cutci}. That would be "a pair such that at least one of the members is a shoe", using the current definition. {remei fi re cutci} would seem to work, even though it sounds a bit redundant. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com