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John: >Jorge Llamb??)B?as scripsit: > > Mr. Bird is indeed sometimes a parrot, sometimes an eagle, sometimes... > Well, it's true that if I have seen a parrot (say, Paulie), I have seen > Mr. Bird. But it does not follow that if I have seen Thorondor (and > a fortiori Mr. Bird), I have seen an entity that is sometimes a parrot. > Thorondor is always an eagle. > > Similarly, some birds are carnivorous, including Thorondor, but Mr. Bird > is not carnivorous. If he were, then it would be fair to say that when > I have seen Paulie, I have seen Mr. Carnivore: but I have not. I think it is fair to say that when you see Paulie you have seen Mr Carnivore. And it is also fair to say that if you have seen Thorondor then you have seen an entity that is sometimes a parrot and you have seen an entity that is always an eagle. However, you have not seen an entity that is sometimes a parrot and always an eagle, for Thorondor is not Mr Bird. ? For the record, this John Cowan (but see http://www.ccil.org/~cowan/notme.html) > doesn't drink tea, or any other similar beverage. But what pleasures you are missing! Perhaps it is because you added milk? I find it disgusting with milk, too -- but without is a pleasure nobody should forgo. --And.