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John: > Invent Yourself scripsit: > > > > Rather, CLL lo'e is about *characteristic* properties. It is characteristic > > > of lions to live in Africa, to have short intestines, and to eat antelope. > > > > Ideal? Prototypical? Definitional? Can you give us an algorithm for > > deriving the "characteristic instance"? Otherwise, I don't know how to > > distinguish it from a stereotype but for the potentially offensive quality > > of the latter. > > le'e stereotypes are subjective (not necessarily offensive); lo'e archetypes > are objective (meaning that all, or all reasonable persons, agree on them; > "it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent"). Although I am happy with CLL-lo'e as a minor & peripheral member of the gadri system, I believe CLL-le'e is downright broken. That is, given the meaning of e-gadri and the meaning of CLL-lo'e, there is no way that le'e can, without inconsistency, have the meaning that CLL ascribes to it. Rather, {le'e nanmu cu broda} must make a generalization about the members of le'i nanmu, rather than a statement about the speaker's stereotype of nanmu. --And.