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Invent Yourself scripsit: > I think you're trying to say that the most we can say about Mr. Bird is > that he has the minimal properties shared by 'all birds'. I believe this > is given by lo jai ka cipni; whereas le'e = le jai ka cipni. No, because it's true that <theKind> cipni se viska mi, which is not a property shared by ro lo cipni. -- First known example of political correctness: John Cowan "After Nurhachi had united all the other http://www.reutershealth.com Jurchen tribes under the leadership of the http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Manchus, his successor Abahai (1592-1643) jcowan@hidden.email issued an order that the name Jurchen should --S. Robert Ramsey, be banned, and from then on, they were all _The Languages of China_ to be called Manchus."