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On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 03:12:07AM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > At 08:33 PM 6/1/03 +0100, And Rosta wrote: [...] > > > > What might be true is that people tend to get interested in Lojban > > > > either because they're interested in whorfianism or because they're > > > > interested in formalism > > > > > > Yeah, but we all know whorfianism (not xod's religion; I mean the > > > Sapir-Whorf hypothesis) is bunk. I think Lojbanists should drop > > > all this "testing the sapir-whorf hypothesis" crap, or at least > > > footnote it with "A largely untenable, racist viewpoint, which is > > > more or less demonstratably false" > > > >I have of course said similar things (albeit a little less vehemently). > >But the founding intent of Lojban was to complete the Loglan project, > >and the original purpose of the Loglan project was ostensibly to test > >SW. So you're saying that Lojban should alter its avowed goals -- > >that is, change what it says its goals are. > > If SWH were demonstrably false, there would be no issue. In point of fact, > while I haven't read recent developments, Kempton and Kay had pretty much > demonstrated that it was TRUE several years ago, at least within the domain > of color words and conception. Can you think about things which take you more than one word to describe, even though other languages have a single word for it? Yes. Ok then. > I certainly don't think it is either "demonstrably false" or "racist" in > the form which JCB and I characterized it. [...] It is racist. Them there savages can't not thunk it like us white folk. They ain't even got no word for 'compassion', I tell ye. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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