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Re: [jboske] Lojban is fxxxed



la xod cusku di'e

> {ko'a krici le du'u broda ije ko'a krici le du'u brode}
> does not logically entail {ko'a krici le du'u ge broda
> gi brode}.

It does only for rational people.

Even if that were true, and supposing I were rational, I
don't know whether ko'a is rational, so I can't make the
entailment. It is not a logical theorem. The inner ge...gi...
is something that ko'a believes or not. The outer ije is
something that the speaker claims. When ko'a is not the
speaker, they are clearly different claims.

But we've already had this discussion before and we are not
advancing any.

Otherwise you must work out the theory
that shows why {the relationship between the chance of beliefs being
wrong} is different than any other probabilistic situation.

The uncertainty only complicates the original claim, but doesn't
change the underlying issue. John might have said:

- For each belief x that I hold with certainty 1, I believe
 with certainty 1 that x is true.
- I also believe with certainty 1 that there is at least one
 belief (I don't know which one) which I hold with certainty 1
 but is false.

Those two are not logical contradictions. They would be contradictory
if the quantifier were moved into or out of the subordinate
proposition, but logic does not allow such a movement.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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