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In my ontology, Nick is what I have been calling Substance. In Nick's terms, he is, I think, Atom rather than Stuff. But how many Nick are there? What would it be like for there to be, say, three Nick, and by what criteria would they count as Nick? Maybe if I could answer that question, I would decide that there are three Nick, or more likely that there are ci'ipa Nick. But when I think of Nick, am I really quantifying over ci'ipa moments of Nick? Intuitively it doesn't feel like I am. But I'm quite happy to say that su'o da, a Bit of Spacetime, is Nick. So all in all, I feel that the cardinality of Nick is Mr Number (or perhaps Mr Za'uno, because I CAN tell the difference between Nick and no Nick), and the same goes for, say, gold. If I look at that which is gold, it is similarly impossible to count it. I can count moments of Nick and bits of gold, but I can't count Nick or gold. --And.