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Re: [jboske] Emergence solved



On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Nick Nicholas wrote:

> xod, this one's for you.
>
> Hearkening back and argument I had with Jordan a month ago: now that I
> know what a collective is, and what piro is, I know how to say
> "severally", "together", and "is an emergent property".
>
> (1) The broda severally did brode:
>
> genai piro loi broda cu brode gi pisu'o loi broda cu brode
>
> (2) The broda together did brode:
>
> piro loi broda cu brode
>
> (3) brode is an emergent property of broda
>
> ge piro loi broda cu brode ginai pida'a loi broda cu brode
>
> 'emergent property' is a stronger condition than 'collectively did': it
> asserts that the property is true of the entirety of the collective,
> and not of any individual members of it.



Does pida'a leave open the possibility that a subset of the collective
might also exhibit the emergent property? 5 men carrying a piano, even
though 3 can manage. Does this make it substance-like? That we can add and
subtract men (beyond a certain threshold), without really altering the
situation, like pouring a few drops into a glass of water?



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