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And Rosta scripsit: > I agree. Argument with you is futile. Consequently if you keep trying > to participate in arguments then any sort of collaboration with you > on Lojban is futile. Not at all. If lojbab couldn't be convinced by any means whatever, then collab would be futile, but he can be -- by the consensus of opinions. So the right thing to do with a lojbab posting is not to argue back, but to (in Smullyan's phrase) "try to see in what sense he may be right". There's often a lot of value in it. -- XQuery Blueberry DOM John Cowan Entity parser dot-com jcowan@hidden.email Abstract schemata http://www.reutershealth.com XPointer errata http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Infoset Unicode BOM --Richard Tobin