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And Rosta scripsit: > > Invoking Whorf, if I say that noda poi jelca is in the drum, then that > > really means NOda, and lighting a match should be safe > > I can't see any grounds for invoking Whorf here; it seems to have > nothing to do with Whorf. Instead, you should invoke Grice and do > a bit of inferncing before lighting the match. This is Whorf the man, not Whorf the Principle. Whorf first got onto SW effects because he was by vocation an fire investigator for an insurance company: people treated "empty" gasoline cans as truly empty, whereas in fact they are full of highly explosive gasoline fumes. > What are the default quantifiers for li, lo'i, le'i, lu, zo? CLL specifies these as ro(pa), piro, piro, su'o, su'o respectively. See Chapter 6, sections 15, 7, 7, 14, 14 respectively. -- Only do what only you can do. John Cowan <jcowan@hidden.email> --Edsger W. Dijkstra, http://www.reutershealth.com deceased 6 August 2002 http://www.ccil.org/~cowan