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And Rosta scripsit: > > Can someone please define this "collective" stuff? > > The output of a collectivizer has discrete members -- it refers to > a collection of discrete things. The collection itself is a single > thing, it has emergent properties, and it inherits properties from > its members on a case-by-case basis, depending on the members and > properties in question. Surely for "output" read "input" here? -- All Gaul is divided into three parts: the part John Cowan that cooks with lard and goose fat, the part www.ccil.org/~cowan that cooks with olive oil, and the part that www.reutershealth.com cooks with butter. -- David Chessler jcowan@hidden.email