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So here is what xorxes and I agree on: set: lu'iro lu'ile lu'ila (=lo'i/le'i/la'i) quantified: PA(ro) PAle PAla substance: lu'oiro lu'oile lu'oila collective: lu'oro lu'ole lu'ola (=(piro)loi/lei/lai) 'unique': lu'airo lu'aile lu'aila Stuff still up in the air: * Is a gadri for Prototypical (or Representative Imaginary, or whatever) logically sound? If it isn't, then lo'e/le'e are short for lu'airo/lu'aile. If it is, then CLL compatibility might argue for lo'e/le'e as the Prototypical. * Is there any way to make any of the above a bit shorter? * Is there any scope to fiddle with default interpretations of bare gadri? I propose, as the solution that would allow the greatest economy in usage conditioned only by considerations of meaning, that bare lo/le/la should be interpreted as if preceded by lu'oiro. That would then give the following table of shortest forms: set: lo'i le'i la'i quantified: PA PAle PAla substance: lo le la collective: loi lei lai 'unique': lu'airo (~lo'e) lu'airole (~ le'e) lu'aila The default inner PA for bare lo/le/la would be tu'o. An overt PA would change the interpretation from substance: quantified: loPA = su'oloPA lePA = rolePA substance: lo(tu'o) le(tu'o) An indeterminable amount of prior usage would be invalidated, but that is a small price to pay, because lo/le/la would at last be assigned to a role where they would properly have highest frequency. No new gadri would be required. And just 2 new LAhE would be required. --And.