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Lojbab: > At 05:03 PM 12/17/02 -0500, John Cowan wrote: > >Jorge Llambias scripsit: > > > > > I agree with that last bit. On the other hand, {mi nitcu loi mikce} > > > says that there is some fraction of the mass of doctors such > > > that I need that fraction. Not what we want > > > >Au contraire, I think it is exactly what we want (if we can dismiss > >the "sundry detached doctor parts" interpretation) > > Since everyone loved my "predicate" interpretation of lo'e, let me try > another idea, that I don't think has been proposed yet (but who knows): > > What if we take the myopic singularization (which may or may not match an > extant) doctor), and consider it a metonym for some real doctor. Then > "la'e lo'e mikce" should be something that "lo'e mikce" is suggestive > of. "la'e loi mikce" probably also works, and allows for the possibility > in "I need a doctor" that "I may need a doctor, who may refer me to > multiple specialists before all is said and done" > > I think that there is a lot of apparatus in the language like "la'e", and > "lu'e" that we haven't yet tried to tap in exploring solutions to "how to > say it". People might want to consider whether these things could apply to > other problems I have mulled it over and drawn a blank. If you can elaborate a proposal a bit more, maybe I can do it more justice. As things stand, I find the inclusion of la'e and lu'e in LAhE to be rather unfortunate, except for la'e+zo/dei/etc. --And.