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xorxes: > la and cusku di'e > > > > 1- If the pro-sumti is overtly quantified, then the new > > > quantification is restricted to the same set over which > > > the antecedent's quantification was restricted > > > > > > 2- If the pro-sumti is not overtly quantified and is still > > > within the scope of its antecedent's quantifier, then it > > > is a variable bound by that quantifier > > > > > > 3- If the pro-sumti is not overtly quantified and it is > > > outside the scope of its antecedent's quantifier, then > > > it is taken to have a default quantifier (ro?, su'o?) > > > that starts a new quantification over the same set over > > > which the antecedent was quantified > > > >A, Might we ever want to get interpretation 2, bound variable, > >but apply a quantifier or relevant LAhE to it? (E.g. if > >the the variable already expresses a za'umei.) > > To answer that, first we need to sort out LAhE > There are (at least) two competing interpretations > > I1. {LAhE lo'i broda} = {LAhE ro lo broda} > > I2. {LAhE lo'i broda} = {LAhE le selcmi be ro broda} > > I favour (I2), but Nick for example used (I1) in his {kau} > expansion, and I think I remember Lojbab arguing for (I1) > at some point too. To give a concrete example, {lu'i ro lo > broda} I think everybody agrees is {lo'i broda}, but {lu'i > lo'i broda} is {lo'i broda} according to (I1) or the set with > {lo'i broda} as its only member, according to (I2) The right one is whichever allows for gadri to be paraphrased as LAhE+lo'i/le'i/la'i. I'm not sure which that is. > Anyway, I don't see how A could be a problem if LAhEs > work as in (I2) For example, if the anaphor refers to a set, the question arises whether LAhE ought to apply to the referent of the anaphor. > >But unless you think these, and A in particular, are serious > >problems, I think your solution is likely the best one > > I was thinking that the default quantifier for mode 3 > should probably be {tu'o} rather than {su'o} or {ro} I forget whether tu'o got fixed as zo'e quantifier or as zi'o quantifier. At any rate, the zo'e quantifier is what's wanted here, I agree. --And.