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On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:52:02PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > la djan cusku di'e > >Jordan DeLong scripsit: > > > But "le djacu" *can* refer to any amount of water. "lei djacu" is > > > a lojbanmass of those individual amounts. A single "le djacu" is > > > only a mass in the english sense of "mass nouns" and whatnot. > > > > > > So, if I have 3 bottles of water, they can be individually "le > > > djacu" or massively "lei djacu". Likewise, if I'm talking about > > > the 7 oceans, they can be individually "le ze djacu" or lojbanmassively > > > "lei ze djacu". > > > >I agree with every word of this. > > We all do, I think. Perhaps And will object to "'le djacu' > is a mass in the english sense of 'mass nouns'". But otherwise > we all agree, because that's the collective {lei} being described. How's it the collective lei? I deliberately called it a "lojbanmass" so as to avoid whatever this "collective" and "substance" crud is. Lojbanmasses are something which is probably not precisely equivalent to either. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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