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On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 07:13:53PM -0000, And Rosta wrote:
> xod:
> > We are conflating substance-nouns with nouns that exhibit emergent
> > properties by using lei for both of them. This doesn't help us, and in
> > fact, I see no reason why Lojban needs a substance gadri at all. We can
> > very easily refer to any quantity of beans or ice with le
>
> If "lo birje" is "a beer", then we need a way to say plain "beer".
> Massifiers erase individuating boundaries, and that's what we need
> here.
"loi birje" does that. "lo birje" == a (quantity of) beer. "loi
birje" == beer.
Also, "lei birje" isn't neccesarily always wrong, as xod was saying,
either. If you have 3 bottles of beer, and are calling each "le
birje", you can massify them normally as "lei birje". (actually
he was talking about djacu. But djacu, birje, what's the difference)
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