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On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 05:32:19AM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> At 11:57 PM 12/17/02 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> >la djan cusku di'e
> >
> > > > I agree with that last bit. On the other hand, {mi nitcu loi mikce}
> > > > says that there is some fraction of the mass of doctors such
> > > > that I need that fraction. Not what we want.
> > >
> > >Au contraire, I think it is exactly what we want (if we can dismiss
> > >the "sundry detached doctor parts" interpretation).
> >
> >I don't think {loi mikce} can refer to detached doctor parts.
> >That has to be {loi mikce pagbu}. {loi mikce} can only be some
> >doctors collectively, but only doctors, not doctor parts.
> >
> >But {mi nitcu loi mikce} says that there is some group of doctors
> >(possibly a singleton) such that I need that group. That's not
> >the usual meaning of "I need a doctor".
>
> The usual meaning is more like
> "mi nitcu lo nu da/lo mikce cu mikce mi"
>
> which suggests that
>
> "I need a box"
> is
> "mi nitcu lo nu da/lo tanxe tanxe zo'e"
I don't think this works because it claims that there is such an
event. I don't buy the idea that "da nu *" or whatever it is that
people have historically claimed to get around that.
My current view is that the "(event/state)" in the gi'uste actually
supports using properties, and I'll probably start using ka for
this. So
mi nitcu leka micke
mi nitcu leka taxne
or even
mi nitcu leka nu da mikce mi
mi nitcu leka nu mi ponse lo tanxe
--
Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email
lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u
sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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