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And Rosta scripsit: > So all I want to argue at this stage is that in determining the > truth of {lei broda cu brode} we need to know what broda and > brode mean, and to consult our encylopedic knowledge. There is > not what I would call a 'logic' of masses or groups. I agree; indeed, long ago Bob showed that "illogical" statements like "All Ethiopians run fast" can be translated into statements about masses. -- Only do what only you can do. John Cowan <jcowan@hidden.email> --Edsger W. Dijkstra, http://www.reutershealth.com deceased 6 August 2002 http://www.ccil.org/~cowan