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Re: [jboske] group loi rejected



Nick Nicholas scripsit:

> God. Not more. And, I have to hold a red card up here. If I say 
> "doesn't CLL-loi do job X here", it is not legitimate to answer "but 
> CLL-loi is wrong, because it doesn't capture English groups." I'm not 
> talking about English groups. I'm talking about CLL-loi.

I agree with this in principle, but I deny that CLL requires us to believe
that Yoko Ono married the Beatles.  CLL 6.3:

#   A mass has the properties
#   of each individual which composes it, and may have other properties of
#   its  own  as  well.  This  can  lead  to apparent contradictions. Thus
#   suppose in the piano-moving example above that person 1 has fair skin,
#   whereas  person  2  has  dark skin. Then it is correct to say that the
#   person-mass  has  both  fair  skin  and  dark  skin.  Using  the  mass
#   descriptor  ``lei''  signals  that  ordinary  logical reasoning is not
#   applicable:  contradictions  can be maintained, and all sorts of other
#   peculiarities  may  exist.  However,  we  can  safely  say that a mass
#   inherits  only  the  component  properties that are relevant to it; it
#   would  be  ludicrous to say that a mass of two persons is of molecular
#   dimensions,  simply  because some of the parts (namely, the molecules)
#   of the persons are that small.

Being married to Yoko is a property relevant to John only, not to the Fab Four.
(John's being married to Yoko was highly relevant to them, to be sure.  :-) )

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