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Jordan: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:44:46AM +1100, Nick Nicholas wrote: > > I'm close to compromising, but of course I will withhold final > > judgement until someone like xod or Jordan chimes in > > I'm still waiting to see more arguments, but I'm starting to think > "loi" is in fact what we want > > > I am reasonably close to accepting that l(x).broda(x) needs its own > > official gadri, and I think And's terms of reference on how the > > decision would be framed are acceptable to me. Me privately, obviously, > > not me BPFKJ. I do want to hear from other fundies > > I'm under the impression that \x: broda(x) is leka ce'u broda. If > we are willing to assume that all djica/nitcu/etc predicates can > be overloaded to take ka, then we can use that I suppose > > However, imho they should've all been designed like sisku (which > And calls "abomination" :). The reason is that if you need something > or want something or are seeking something, you are really looking > for *anything*[1] which fits a certain set of criteria. So I can't seek Nick, but instead have to sisku lV ka ce'u du lV nitcion? > This way we > would be saying {mi djica leka klama le zarci} instead of choosing > a gadri for a nu such as le, which is obviously wrong[2] > > [1] This is why I was trying to shoe-horn it into universal > quantification > > [2] Now though, I think {mi djica loinu mi klama le zarci} may in > fact be correct. I've generally used "lenu" or "lonu", even though > I think the first is obviously wrong, and the second is questionable Hurray! Something we agree on! I'm a loinu-er too. Hope that doesn't put you off! --And.