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And Rosta: > The stuff about myopic singularization and squinting is meant to show > how if your starting point is a many-membered extension, you can work > your way to the single prototype. But I think lo'e should just mean that > single prototype. I agree. Never mind the way you make the squinting, because whatever the method you chose, it may very well never be fully objective. So the burden of the listener to accurately defines the prototype you have in mind will always remain. lojbab: > Therefore squinting is a predication, with an additional place indicating > the method of singularization. We can either decide that 1) lo'e is one > particular kind of squinting, or 2) that it is a vague (zo'e) kind of > squinting, unless a restrictive phrase is attached which indicates the > kind of squinting. I like the point 2 very much: which concrete form do you think the restrictive phrase should take? > le'e prizes subjectivity, > and presumes that the observer is looking at the prototype of a limited > set, choosing to exclude any outliers that do not fit his prototype. But in that case, isn't {le'e} only {lo'e} with a specific restrictive phrase? It would be a pity that both semantics have such overlap. -- Lionel