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poi'i, se/te/ve ka (was Re: [jboske] sane kau?)



On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 11:11:12PM -0600, Jordan DeLong wrote:
[...]
> poi'i gives you the identity abstractor, and it is one of the few
> of And's (extreemly numerous) experimentals which could maybe be
> useful.  I don't like that it reuses ke'a though.
[...]

Actually, xorxes mentions on the wiki that if you accept x2 of ka
you can just use se ka instead of poi'i for this.  Which is a bit
nicer imho:

I would actually like to see the byfy maybe consider modifying the
place structure of ka so that x2-xn are places for filling in lambda
variables.  Which variables are filled by which place could be
specified by subscripts (ce'uxipa is x2, ce'uxire is x3, etc) or
assumed left to right otherwise.

A ka with every variable filled would the same as a du'u.

Also, note that if any identity-capable method for NU is accepted
it will put to rest the issue of people complaining when I use
tu'a/jai for metonymy. (klama fu tu'a mi == klama fu leseka ce'u
karce mi)

One other point this made me think of:  "le" wouldn't be the default
on a "se ka" like it is on normal "ka", as there's probably a number
of things which can fill in the variable---so "le" is just used if
you know which thing.

-- 
Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email
lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u
                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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