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xorxes: > la nitcion cusku di'e [...] > >And then, > >you can squint, and induce a generalisation: {mi djuno lo'edu'u la > >fred. limna}. {limna ma}? The question is invalid. You're not making a > >claim about a particular swim, in a particular body of liquid. You're > >generalising > > But it would still be a single fact, {du'u la djan ta'e limna} or > something. I would use {le du'u} both for the fact about a > specific event and for the (specific) fact about a generic > event. And would use {lo'e du'u} for both. The idea is that > for any <bridi> there is always one and only one {du'u <bridi>}, > so it makes no difference which article we use. Whichever article > we normally use for singleton categories is the most appropriate, > in my case it is {le} Right. It bugs me that because it is monosyllabic you go for {le}. It's not your choice that bugs me; it's that the choices made by the language designers in allocating phonological shapes to cmavo should have such an impact on what we choose to say in our Lojban sentences. > That is not the only possible view. It might be argued that > {lo'i du'u <bridi>} is not necessarily always a singleton > It depends on how the scope of {zo'e} works with respect to > {du'u} I suppose Indeed. But I can't think of any sufficiently strong arguments for variable-zo'e du'u that could deserve to overturn the now long- standing consensus in favour of fixed-zo'e du'u. Perhaps variable- zo'e du'u = sedu'u, though. --And.