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Re: [jboske] Why ro is importing & nobody should mind



On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 07:21:40PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> Jordan DeLong scripsit:
> > But there are no unicorns...  It's equally true that they're all
> > green with purple dots, whatever you may believe.
> 
> The pc/John/And/maybe-xod viewpoint is that it's equally false to believe
> these things -- or, if you prefer, meaningless to say them.

I definitely prefer meaningless -- a false proposition implies every
proposition, no matter whether it is true or not -- so they are
certainly true statements.

> > However, regardless of whether universals import, you can universally
> > claim anything about things which don't exist in any universe,
> > provided that the universe is nonempty if you use a importing
> > universal quantifier, and it is true:
> > 	Ax((Fx & ~Fx) -> Gx)
> > is true for any universe, and any predicates F and G.  (A false
> > proposition implies all propositions -- we know Unicorn(x) is going
> > to be false in this universe, just like we know Fx & ~Fx is always
> > false, so we can infer anything from it, such as white(x), purple(x)...)
> 
> Absolutely.  And you say that in Lojban using "ro da ganai ..."

Right; but if ro <foo> doesn't also mean the same thing, our system
is inconsistent.

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Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email
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                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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