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On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 07:21:40PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > Jordan DeLong scripsit: > > But there are no unicorns... It's equally true that they're all > > green with purple dots, whatever you may believe. > > The pc/John/And/maybe-xod viewpoint is that it's equally false to believe > these things -- or, if you prefer, meaningless to say them. I definitely prefer meaningless -- a false proposition implies every proposition, no matter whether it is true or not -- so they are certainly true statements. > > However, regardless of whether universals import, you can universally > > claim anything about things which don't exist in any universe, > > provided that the universe is nonempty if you use a importing > > universal quantifier, and it is true: > > Ax((Fx & ~Fx) -> Gx) > > is true for any universe, and any predicates F and G. (A false > > proposition implies all propositions -- we know Unicorn(x) is going > > to be false in this universe, just like we know Fx & ~Fx is always > > false, so we can infer anything from it, such as white(x), purple(x)...) > > Absolutely. And you say that in Lojban using "ro da ganai ..." Right; but if ro <foo> doesn't also mean the same thing, our system is inconsistent. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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