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The idea of a unicorn is real but I refuse, by an obnoxious committment to empiricalism, to believe in any imaginary worlds where unicorns roam around. Since I have philosophical problems imaginary worlds, I prefer to discuss the concept of the Unicorn. Natlangs often conflate the ideas to which words refer, and the phenomena to which the ideas refer. I am detecting a hierarchy of symbols, at least one deep, between a word and its corresponding phenomena. I have not yet worked out the full theory, but my axioms are ca'e la'e ro valsi cu sidbo ca'e la'e piso'o loi sidbo cu zasti This may give nearly identical results to Imaginary World theory, while satisfying positivist epistemology concerns. Also, upon rigorously objective inspection, the student should eventually see little difference between "horse" and "unicorn". The two conclusions at the end of such an analysis are pure solipsism, or a universe of particles and potential fields. Not a horse in sight in the latter, and in the former, all the unicorns you like. But hold on a moment. The fact that these discussions have been raging for seven years or more indicates that an entirely new approach is needed. Nick doesn't want us to be 'community of self-flagellators'; I agree. So let's start dispensing with some extremely basic questions. Why are we so concerned with existence? Is this some sort of a corruption of logic by the hallucinations of mad metaphysicists, ranting gibberish about being and nothingness and nonbeingness? What do we mean by existence: empirically provable, or just assumed to exist for the sake and context of the discussion? I propose that "existential import" in Lojban mean the latter; that claims by default refer to whatever hypothetical universe the discourse is taking place in -- full of Unicorns and Sherlocks as easily as they might be forbidden. And that we reserve da'i and da'inai to import the results of the discussion to the empirical universe, or inhibit the same. Specifically, I propose that {da} mean {da da'icu'i}, not {da da'inai} as we seem to have been torturing ourselves over. -- "In the Soviet Union, government controls industry. In the United States, industry controls government. That is the principal structural difference between the two great oligarchies of our time." -- Edward Abbey