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Here's why I had preferred nonimporting ro: First, I wanted to be able to say {ro pavyseljirna cu blabi} without having to claim that you can go out and find unicorns, and without having to rephrase to {ro da ga na pavyseljirna gi blabi}. Second, I wanted De Morgan to work. De Morgan with importing ro fails precsisely when the quantified set is empty. But I think we were wrong that this meant that we sorely need nonimporting ro. Let's take the unicorn case first. I want to be able to say {ro pavyseljirna cu blabi}. But I also want to be able to say {su'o pavyseljirna cu blabi} and {su'o pavyseljirna cu nakni}. But there's no dispute about the importingness of su'o. So it turns out that when I want to talk about unicorns I'm talking about a nonempty set of things that are unicorns in a world where unicorns exist. I don't see any difference between 'ro' and '100%', and it seems clear to me that 100% should be importing, so I hold that 'ro' must be. When we ordinarily want to truthfully quantify over apparently empty sets we are in fact quantifying over sets that are nonempty in some world other than This One. So the apparent failure of De Morgan does not in fact arise, except in extremely contrived examples. I don't give a shit about whether or not "ro da" is true in an empty universe. Nor do I give a shit about whether "ro broda je na broda cu brode" is true -- i.e. quantifying over sets that are empty in all possible worlds. Or rather, I think it is always false, and I don't care, because it doesn't stop us saying any of the things we want to say. To summarize: I see no practical reasons (usage, sayability) why ro shouldn't be importing. The ro = 100% argument gives a principled reason why ro should be importing. The fact that we want to say true things about {su'o pavyseljirna} means that nonimporting ro wouldn't make our problems go away. The "some logicians hold that ro isn't importing" argument is on its own not decisive, and the philosophical implications of opting for importing ro kick in only in contrived examples that have no bearing on ordinary usage. I haven't shown how to be explicit about which world the quantificand exists in, but this is a known, different and more general problem. --And.