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And Rosta scripsit: > but obviously you didn't think that {lo ro broda} implied {lo su'o > broda}, because otherwise su'o would have been used at the default > as it is for le. Good point. In fact those tables predate CLL and may reflect (lojbab's?) non-importing views. In an importing environment, the default inner quantifiers should probably all be su'o, but it does no actual damage to make some su'o and others ro. -- My corporate data's a mess! John Cowan It's all semi-structured, no less. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan But I'll be carefree jcowan@hidden.email Using XSLT http://www.reutershealth.com In an XML DBMS.