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xorxes:
> la pycyn cusku di'e
>
> >On the
> >other hand, it it is used to introduce a character which has a continuing
> >life in the text, it is, as in logic, a singular (and dealt with most
> >effectively with a namely-rider, {goi ...}. It is the easiest way to get
> >to
> >a singular in Lojban
>
> The namely-rider can be used with {lo broda} as easily as
> with {da poi broda}, so I don't see how that makes a
> difference
>
> I still have trouble with this namely-rider notion though
> I don't see how it can be made to work in general. It requires
> a very restricted context
>
> Consider this example:
>
> le ci nanmu cu kansa da poi ninmu zi'e goi ko'a
> Each of the three men was with a woman, ko'a
>
> I don't see any way to use ko'a unless we remain within
> the scope of {ro le ci nanmu}. But extending the scope
> of a quantifier beyond the bridi in which it appears
> leads to madness, especially if ko'a is going to be a
> character with continuing life in the text. So
> namely-riders with su'o make sense only if the context
> is such that there is nothing with scope over this su'o
True.
It's not easy to do. I'm probably missing an obvious solution,
but here's my unobvious one:
le'i ci nanmu goi ko'a fa'u ko'e fa'u ko'i ku xi pa
-map-1-to-1
le'i ci ninmu goi fo'a fa'u fo'e fa'u fo'i ku xi re
tu'o ka ce'u xi pa prami ce'u xi re
Something like this problem is discussed on the Jeeg and Talen
page in pc's quoted comments in the Loglanist.
--And.