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RE: [jboske] zo'au, vau



zorzes:
#la and cusku di'e
#
#>   A B C zo'u
#>= (zo'u) ... zo'au A B C
#>= A zo'u ... zo'au B C
#>= (zo'u) B zo'u ... zo'au C zo'au A
#>= (zo'u) (zo'u) (zo'u) ... zo'au C zo'au B zo'au A
#>= A zo'u zo'u ... zo'au C zo'au B
#>= A zo'u C zo'u ... zo'au zo'au B
#
#I think this is nice, and also the Right Thing for the
#interpretation of several zo'u-zo'au, but I have my doubts
#about usability of the forms that require forethought,
#i.e. more than one zo'u. (Several zo'au is ok, because
#that's afterthought.) 

Forethought is the ineluctable price of precision and unambiguity.

A good afterthought device might be a marker that says "the
following sumti isn't necessarily quantified with the scope
you would expect it to have, given its position; please glork
the intended scope from context".

#Also, not all orders are obtainable.
#For example, you can't present the terms in BAC order or
#CAB order, can you? Largest scope must always appear at
#one of the ends.

That's right. Nature has its limits. I suppose BAC and CAB could
be got by some other novel device (such as an anti-koi'a such a
quantified sumti bound to an anti-koi'a is quantified in the position
occupied by the antikoi'a), but it would go beyond what
I proposed, and would reflect the greater complexity of BAC and
CAB. I won't propose an antikoi'a at the moment, because I
haven't written enough Lojban to have felt a pressing need for
it yet.

--And.