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Re: [jboske] putative tense scope effects (was: RE: Concrete examples of Llamban lo'e



On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:

> Xod:
> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> >
> > But those 2 sentences are identical:
> >
> > la djan cu darxi lo nanmu ze'a le jeftu
> > la djan cu darxi ze'a le jeftu lo nanmu
>
> Are they? You may be right, but it's not obvious that you are.
>
> Certainly there is a difference between
>
> There is a man such that all week it has been the case
> that John hits him.
>
> All week it has been the case that there is a man that John hits.
> =At no time during the week has it been false that there is a man
> that John hits.
>
> I would have thought that
>
> la djan cu darxi lo nanmu ze'a le jeftu
> la djan cu darxi ze'a le jeftu lo nanmu
>
> would respectively be the ways to express the two meanings. But I may
> be wrong -- afaik, this precise point has never been discussed before.



I take it as axiomatic that sumti order affects nothing but stress or
attention or focus.





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