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John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > In this case, one of A-B should obtain. Which of the two is > > the better? > > I reject both of them, not too surprisingly. I can't see identifying > nu-objects (events) with du'u/ka objects (propositions/properties/relations). > Events are thick, with lots of reasonable predicates applying to them, > most centrally "occurs". Props are thin, with very few predicates, > the most important with is "true (of)". I don't see how you're rejecting A. But be that as it may, I'm not trying to identify nu-objects with du'u/ka objects. Rather, I'm trying to at the very least establish that one of the two is the default for sumti that could be defined either way ("x is true" vs "x is actual"). > Either events or props can reflect real-world/true or unreal/false > situations. Metalinguistically you can say which is which with je'u/ > je'unai decorations. I'm after a nonmetalinguistic way that is shorter than "jetnu je du'u". But that's an incidental matter. --And.