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Re: [jboske] {ka'e nu} versus {du'u}



In a message dated 10/15/2002 7:39:15 PM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@hidden.email writes:

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If {du'u} were abolished, are there any cases where it could not
be replaced by {ka'e nu}, assuming an appropriate tweaking of
the semantics of sumti places that take a du'u sumti (e.g.
"true" being reconstrued as "is actual", is "ca'a nu")?
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I don't get this one.  Even ignoring the questions about what {ka'e} means and whether it can be made to mean possible, {du'u} doesn't seem to have much to do with events.  This sounds a lot like a use-mention confusion -- between what refers to something and the something it refers to.  In addition, there are impossible propositions, but maybe not impossible events and certainly not impossible possible events.

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I am beginning to think that the meaning that I generally
express by {lo'e du'u} and that others generally express by
{le nu} could/should be expressed by {lo'e ka'e nu} (or
sometimes {lo(i) ca'a nu}).

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Ahah! this comes out of some strange use of that strange word {lo'e}, which gets used in all sorets of ways that no one ever bothers to explain.  I suppose that fact alone is enough to make this suggestion not only unacceptable but ludicrous.