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Steven: #And to xorxes (i think): #> your #> objection to it seems really to be a more general objection that #> the overal magnitude of a number cannot be apprehended until #> the entire number has been parsed. # #this has been one of my objections to loglan's/lojban's number system all #along, back before i even knew about lojban. i still don't like it. (not a #complaint to you; rather, thanks for pointing out so concisely what's been #bugging me for so long.) There are ways round it, chiefly: (i) it must be possible somehow to indicate the magnitude of the initial digit using gei, though without checking the book, I don't know how to do it (ii) introducing an experimental cmavo that indicates counting upwards from the units, e.g. {zei'a} (< zenba), now added on the wiki. --And.