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RE: [jboske] lexicalizations for truth/degree operators (was: RE:more true



Xod:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> 
> > Below is an attempt to summarize the range of meanings
> > of operators and degree words that I perceive a need
> > for, and a stab at indicating possible lexicalizations
> > where I can think of any.
> >
> > If you can fill in the gaps and/or suggest better
> > lexicalizations, this would be welcome.
> >
> > UNARY OPERATORS
> >
> > - : false
> > 0 : sorta
> > + : true
> >
> > - 0 +
> > =====
> > - 0 +   ja'a
> > + 0 -   na
> > - + -   ja'a cu'i = na cu'i
> > + + -   na'e ja'a ku
> > - + +   na'e na ku
> > + - +   na('e?) ja'a cu'i = na('e?) na cu'i
> 
> Sorry, I don't understand any of that.

e.g.:

{na broda} is true if {broda} is false, is sorta if {broda} is Sorta
and is false is {broda} is true.

{na'e na ku broda} is false if {broda} is false and true if {broda}
is sorta or is true.

Is that clearer, or should I spell it out a bit further?

> > DEGREES
> >
> > ja'a cai  : very
> > ja'a sai  : fairly
> > ja'a ru'e : barely
> > na ru'e   : almost
> > na sai    : fairly un-
> > na cai    : not at all
> 
> I've actually been using CAI directly on the words I want to modify.

How would that correspond to the 6 items in this list?

> > TYPES OF NEGATION OF DEGREE
> >
> > na('e?) <ja'a sai> : in degree that is other than <very>
> > ??                 : in degree that is less than
> > ??                 : in degree that is more than
> >
> > DEGREES OF JA'A CU'I
> > ?? : sorta-but-closer-to-being-POS-than-NEG
> > ?? : sorta-but-much-closer-to-being-POS-than-NEG
> > ?? : sorta-but-somewhat-closer-to-being-POS-than-NEG
> > ?? : sorta-but-slightly-closer-to-being-POS-than-NEG
> > ?? : sorta-but-closer-to-being-NEG-than-POS
> > ?? : sorta-but-much-closer-to-being-NEG-than-POS
> > ?? : sorta-but-somewhat-closer-to-being-NEG-than-POS
> > ?? : sorta-but-slightly-closer-to-being-NEG-than-POS
> 
> Numbers, man. Numbers.

Sure, but how? {pi PA va'e} and {ja'a xi pi PA} seem to be
taken by everybody but me to not mean degrees of sorta.

--And.