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And Rosta scripsit: > So there never was a time when Lojban Central said "Here is the design, > we invite your comments on it"? There never was a design per se. When I walked in, there existed the gismu list, the 10/88 cmavo list (which was not a mere list, but had a paragraph or two per selma'o), and the YACC grammar. My questions were of the form "What is this for?" for the most part, and it took me about 2 years to ask enough of those questions to make CLL possible. In some places the descriptions were known to be defective (like tense and MEX), and then I wrote up my own descriptions instead. Eventually the descriptions became general enough to constitute CLL. -- John Cowan jcowan@hidden.email At times of peril or dubitation, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Perform swift circular ambulation, http://www.reutershealth.com With loud and high-pitched ululation.