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Re: [jboske] more true (was: ka ka (was: Context Leapers))




la pycyn cusku di'e

{na}
and {ja'a} don't have the same syntax, so there is no compulsion to treat
them in the same way (not that even the syntax would be decisive on this).

{ja'a} is in NA.

You may be thinking of {je'u} in UI, which seems more appropriate
for the comment thing. {ja'a} gives the same type of transformation
that {na} gives. It is the identity transformation.

Other things to play with are {jo'a}, {ju'a}, {ju'o} in UI,
and {je'a} in NAhE.

<<
I mean that transforming {ko'a broda ko'e} into {ko'a mutce
le ka ce'u broda ko'e} seems to treat {ko'a} and {ko'e} differently,
so it doesn't look like we're applying a function to the original
predicate.
>>

I don't really follow this one: {ko'a} and {ko'e}, by virtue of being in
different places are treated differently.  Or do you mean that each is
treated differently from the way it was treated in the original?

Yes. One is left as an argument of the main selbri and the
other is kicked into a subordinate predicate.

<<
{le du'u ko'a broda ko'e cu mutce [le ka ...]} looks more like a
function applied to the original predicate.
>>
OK, I'll withdraw the word "function," if that is giviing you problems (it is moderately common in the literature, but something else may do as well). The
point remains the same, whatever the words used to describe it.

I don't mind the word at all. I just don't see {ko'a mutce
le ka ce'u broda ko'e} as a simple transformation of {ko'a
broda ko'e}. Why not {ko'e mutce le ka ko'a broda ce'u}?

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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