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On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote: > Xod: > > Naturally, I find the fact that there are no natlang analogs to xoi'a > and > > xoi'e (especially with respect to a direct treatment of "linear" and > > "exponential" functions) a very Good Thing. > > But for something that needn't be expressed by a cmavo but could be > expressed by a lujvo instead, isn't the evidence of natlangs useful > in suggesting which concepts are needed often enough to warrant > being expressed by a cmavo? Lojban has introduced the concept of the "grammatical orthogonality" of tense and statement; the tenses can be inserted into statements at will, without grammatically affecting the rest of the statement. And in a sense, conceptually, the idea of tense is a meta-comment on the statement and shouldn't really have impact its structure. If you can't appreciate the clean elegance here, I can't say much more than this, and several rounds of debates about it won't help anyone. But this is why I think these concepts really should be tenses and not (only) lujvo. -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn